LJ issues

May. 29th, 2017 08:58 am
hhimring: (Default)
[personal profile] hhimring
There are stories going round that on LJ journals and comms have been suspended and deleted without warning for including links in their posts to sites outside LJ.
If this happens, apparently it is possible to get the suspension revoked, if you immediately contact LJ support and explain that you are not a spambot. However, apparently there have been occasions when this appeal has failed, too. I don't know the particulars.
I myself had a cross-post from DW to my LJ journal blocked recently as spam because it contained an external link. I think it was a link to the SWG Archive.
I don't think it can be links to all external sites that are targeted--the algorithm they are using must have some kind of whitelist, but it is clearly worryingly short and the results do not seem to be vetted by humans, unless you appeal.
The reason I think they may be using a whitelist, although a very inadequate whitelist, is that in the cross-posts links to AO3 have been going through okay (as have the standard links to DW). But clearly the suspensions are hitting even links to big and well-known sites.
It would also be rash to assume that links to AO3 cannot be targeted, as there appears to be no information how the algorithm really works.
So far it looks as if the algorithm reacts equally to links in locked posts as well as public posts, which seems rather ridiculous. Who ever heard of a spambot locking their posts?

Date: 2017-05-29 06:10 pm (UTC)
dawn_felagund: (silmarils)
From: [personal profile] dawn_felagund
I myself had a cross-post from DW to my LJ journal blocked recently as spam because it contained an external link.

This is new information to me and suggests that the situation may be worse than I'd assumed.

I've assumed that the algorithm accounted for more than just "post contains a link." But I am wondering if it isn't a simple whitelist now.

Who ever heard of a spambot locking their posts?

The people at LJ don't seem to be playing with a full deck. *sigh*

ETA ... I'm going to make an update post about all this; is it okay if I link to you?
Edited Date: 2017-05-29 07:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-29 09:35 pm (UTC)
dawn_felagund: Ainulindale--star photo from hubblesite.org. (ainulindale)
From: [personal profile] dawn_felagund
Thanks for the permission and clarification! I've updated the post accordingly. :)

Date: 2017-05-29 11:05 pm (UTC)
ysilme: cat looking exasperated (Seriously? LJ)
From: [personal profile] ysilme
I'm so tired about this shit... I just read Dawn's entries, too. I'm somewhat relieved that my crossposts went through, as the last ones all contained external links to my photo gallery, particularly after your experience. Not that this is any kind of guarantee, of course....

Date: 2017-05-30 09:07 am (UTC)
ysilme: Gull sitting on a pole (Gull)
From: [personal profile] ysilme
Oh dear, I'm so sorry for having given you this impression! I meant I'm tired about LJ doing these things, certainly _not_ kind people like you sharing their experiences and knowledge! On the contrary, I'm really grateful that you shared your experience, as it made me aware that I need to check my own crossposts more diligently - I usually do check them, but sometimes I'm in a hurry and then forget about it. I'm equally grateful about every little bit people are sharing about any of this, and every bit that helps people puzzle out what's going on. Thank you very much for your post and sharing your experience!

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